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Friday, July 21, 2006
Coming and Going in the Summer
Thursday, July 20, 2006
Idealism and do questions have answers?
Friday, July 14, 2006
What characters!
The next time you feel like G0D can't use you, just remember...
Noah was a drunk
Abraham was too old
Isaac was a daydreamer
Jacob was a liar
Leah was ugly
Joseph was abused
Moses had a stuttering problem
Gideon was afraid
Samson had long hair and was a womanizer
Rahab was a prostitute
Jeremiah and Timothy were too young
David had an affair and was a murderer
Elijah was suicidal
Isaiah preached naked
Jonah ran from God
Naomi was a widow
Job went bankrupt
Peter denied Christ
The Disciples fell asleep while praying
Martha worried about everything
The Samaritan woman was divorced, more than once
Zaccheus was too small
Rav Sha'ul (Paul) was too religious
Timothy had an ulcer..AND
Lazarus was dead!
Now! No more excuses!
GOD can use you to your full potential.
Besides you aren't the message, you are just the messenger.
Friday, July 07, 2006
Thursday, July 06, 2006
Perfectionism
as saying, "A wonderful pastor once told me, 'Perfectionism is the highest order of self-abuse,"' she tells the magazine. "So now I try to remind myself that if I engage in perfectionism, I am abusing myself. Period."
Wednesday, July 05, 2006
Three hundred year old Lutheran Mission in India
He also brought out a dictionary of the Tamil language and established the first printing press in Asia, with the Bible being the first book printed in India.
Isn't it easy to be American-centered in our "Christian culture?" We often forget how far back Christianity has been established in other parts of the world. For example, Christianity has been in Korea for over 250 years, with over 50% of the population being Christian.
A Little Walk
Wednesday, June 28, 2006
"Immoral use of Morality"
This article helps me see why I'm not comfortable with the arguments used by some people that I probably agree with. And why I'm not being swayed by the other arguments. Great job, WF!
Monday, June 26, 2006
Immigration policy and racism
….Is it related?
Much is in the news these days about illegal immigration. The emphasis is always on the “illegal” part of the equation. And much is in the news about our southern border.
Illegal immigration from the south almost always implies people who are not white. This may not be stated, but it is certainly the implication. But statements are made about language, about having immigrants learning English, regardless of where they are from.
One thing that “seems” to be true is that employers are hiring people, either not caring or not checking if they are illegal.
I know that when a company is interviewing a person for a job, there are a number of personal questions that are not allowed to be asked. This begs the question: Can an employer ask where a person is born? Can they ask if and when the person was naturalized (to be a citizen of the US?)? Apparently they can ask for certain documentation.
What about people who fit the general superficial description of an immigrant, but are legal citizens, perhaps even born here? Do they have to constantly carry their birth certificates? Most of the rest of us don’t have to do that.
We became acquainted with a couple with Hispanic last names because our children were friends. They told us that the reason they were self-employed is that they faced so much apparent racism when they were looking for work. I found myself assuming that they had come from Mexico at some point, even though they spoke English with the same accent as the rest of us. Well, my assumptions were wrong. They told me that they had come from Colorado where their people had a strong Spanish influence, and their ancestors had been there for 400 years.
Will there be a backlash against people who appear to be immigrants, appear to be non-white, or people have accents?
A young man I know, who is an immigrant, naturalized citizen, who speaks with a middle-American accent, has been having problems finding work. He is clean-cut, well-spoken, outgoing, hard working, and has excellent recommendations, etc. He gets called to come and find out about a job, but when he gets to some of these interviews, they’ve sometimes taken one look at him and said that the job has been filled. Or they say that they will call back, and they don’t. He is beginning to suspect racism. His last name sounds “white,” which is why, he suspects, that he gets called for the interviews. We are not talking great jobs here, but rather, part time work to make ends meet.
He says that when he talks to his white friends, they deny that racism could possibly be a part of the equation. And, of course, he doesn’t really know the real reason why he isn’t finding work. Are whites still in denial that racism still exists? This young man has also noticed that “all” of the cleaning people he sees anywhere are not white.
What should people of faith do to influence the current public policy and climate? What would you say to this young man?
Sunday, June 25, 2006
Old Hymns, New Music ?
(And Im sure that there are other churches that use music that they gather from a variety of sources, and in fact, some churches print their own music sheets.)
But one thing Ive wondered about is how much of a shock a new hymnal will be to a church that is using our green hymnal exclusively. That book is almost 30 years old.
The church I attend, as Ive mentioned before, has used music from a variety of sources. We have come to love the With One Voice (blue hymnal.) The copyright date on that is 1995. We love the new music in that hymnal.
Hmmmm, New Music? Well, I counted the hymns today [while watching the Twins pound the Cubs 8 0.] Since the blue book came out in 1995, I figured that Id count anything copyrighted in 1990-1995 as new. Anything before would be old. That means that new music could actually be 16 years old.
There are 201 numbered hymns in the blue book. Of those, 175 are more than 16 years old. What really surprised me was not that many are from other cultures, but that a large number of the hymns are many centuries old. Of course, at some time, those were new music as well.
Our churchs pianist has used the blue book with the Sunday School kids, teaching them the liturgy and a number of they hymns. They love it. I personally believe in also teaching the Sunday School kids some of the old beloved hymns.
Related Points:
No wonder some people seek to use much more contemporary music as a means to draw in the unchurched.
The Roman Catholic Church as been commissioning much new music, and, in fact, employing some Lutherans to write it.
New music doesnt have to be loud or rock or any of the things that set the generations apart.
Saturday, June 24, 2006
Liberal or Conservative
How Liberal or Conservative are you?
Thursday, June 22, 2006
Like a Mustard Seed
People in farm country know that the mustard is a weed. It is from the family Cruciferae, so named because their 4 petals form a cross. There are 138 species in our area.
We don't know which species Jesus had in mind, but we don't have one here that grows into a bush.
Our pastor pointed out that Jesus often turned conventional wisdom up side down, and in this case, we could conclude from the context of the previous section of the Gospel of Mark that Jesus may have been saying, "The kingdom of God is like a weed." The seed sprouts and grows even though the farmer doesn't know how.
We need to plant the good seed, but God through the Spirit grows it, and then we need to be ready for the harvest.
Wednesday, June 21, 2006
New Hymnal
ELCA synod leaders prepare to introduce 'Evangelical Lutheran Worship'
Tuesday, June 20, 2006
Solve the world's problems....
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Monday, June 19, 2006
Follow-up to the post about the NEWS
Full Church
There ARE good people!
Friday, June 16, 2006
Trinity
Thursday, June 15, 2006
What passes for NEWS these days....
<< If we could get everyone in the country to read something like this, what passes for modern journalism would be in deep trouble!>>
"Ain't that the truth. I was pondering recently which fallacies are most common amongst the talk show crowd, but there are so many it's hard to say for sure. Ad hominem attacks (on the speaker rather than the argument); bifurcation (saying it's either this or that, when there may be other alternatives); equivocation (changing the meaning of a key word); omission of relevant facts; false cause; hasty generalization... it's endless! My husband and I have fun playing "Name That Fallacy" when listening to political commentators, especially."
Tuesday, June 13, 2006
A Prayer in song.
| Singer/Songwriter, Laura Cohn Adds The Name Allah To Her Spiritual Song Wakantanka In Response To Anti-Semitic And Anti-Israel Muslim Politics Full Article Here |
Laura Cohn is an advocate of new thinking and takes issue when unconscious behavior is being promoted in the news. She particularly seeks to infuse accepted beliefs with new ideas so that people will not automatically buy into what they are being sold as necessary in society that does not serve the greater good for all people living on the planet now and in future generations. She is currently performing around LA."
Thursday, June 08, 2006
Wednesday, June 07, 2006
Da Vinci Code
Tuesday, June 06, 2006
"What Price Revenge?"
what prive revenge
Monday, June 05, 2006
Survey for Lutherans; Answering my own questions
Survey originally posted on 5/6/2006. Several people posted comments in answer to these questions. Others answered me privately.
1. What is the approximate numbers who worship on a Sunday morning? How many services? Are there midweek worship opportunities? Why? Are there any outreach worship services?
We have approximately 125 – 175 in church most Sundays. We have many visitors attend our services, especially in summer, so the summer attendance is similar in number to winter attendance, but almost like a different congregation. There is one service on Sunday morning. No outreach services now. There are other non-worship activities such as Bible studies, youth group, meetings, funerals, as well as non-religious functions that take place, giving an estimated use of the church of about 300 - 450 people per week.
Given that the nature of employment in our area has many people working on Sunday mornings, I think that providing an alternative worship time and day would serve the community. Our RC brothers and sisters usually have such an alternative. A church has to be committed to this for the long haul, regardless of attendance to make it work.
2. Do people travel a long way to this church? Are there other Lutheran churches people can choose from without traveling more than 15 miles? Is your church in a tiny town, rural area, small city, big city?
My church is in a tiny town in a rural area. Many people drive at least seven miles to attend church. The closest ELCA church is almost 20 miles away. According to the yellow pages, there are about 30 Lutheran churches of various kinds within about 50 miles.
3. What age groups does your church attract? Since younger adults often don’t attend church, if you do have lots of young adults, do you know what brings them to your church? Do you have a youth group? Do you have adults who volunteer to help? Do you pay a youth leader?
Most of the people who attend are older middle age and up, but there are some people of all ages. This used to be a church of lots of young couples who were very active, but we aged and the younger groups didn’t fill in. This is somewhat because of demographics [all the school populations are shrinking] and somewhat because of the general changes in society, but I can’t help but think that we must have had something lacking. I sense that another church in our community is attracting the young families with a stronger program for children and families.
We have a paid youth leader and have had one for a number of years. There are at least 4 youth leaders who volunteer to help every week as well. The youth program attracts a good following, although those kids seem to attend on Sunday only if their parents attend on Sunday.
The youth have a weekly meeting during the school year, retreats, conventions in the state, and camping trips.
Sunday School attendance is about 20 students, whereas at one time we often had about 60 children.
4. Does this church have a mixture of ethnic backgrounds? Does this church have mostly people who were always Lutheran or does it have many people who came from other types of denominations? If your church has people of mixed denominational backgrounds, do you know why they come to your church?
Most of the people are of N. European descent, with a very few non-white people. There is a mixture of cradle Lutherans and people who chose this church, including some who chose it as a compromise made by couples of two differing Christian backgrounds.
Making a very unscientific mental survey, I’d say that at least half of the very active people in this church, including past and present paid staff, have come from non-Lutheran backgrounds. Perhaps “choosing” a church is like choosing where to live rather than just living somewhere because that’s where mom and dad lived: the person actually compares and contrasts and likes the openness and acceptance of this church. We've had a number of baptisms of children, teens, and adults.
5. How many pastors does your church have? Other employees who do ministry, such as a youth director or parish nurse?
One full time pastor, two part-time office people, a part-time parish nurse and part-time youth director.
6. Would you say that your church has a strong pastoral leadership style or a style of lots of lay leaders, committees, that are active and that the pastor can delegate to? Other styles? Does your church have any lay people who are willing to be the worship leader at a Sunday service? Lay people who preach? Lay people who visit the shut-ins? Lay people who help serve communion? Other opportunities for lay people? If you are in a church where the pastor is in charge of everything, what do you think would happen if a new pastor wanted the people to be part of the ministry? Is your pastor pulled in many directions, in danger of being over committed and worn out? Do you think that most people realize all that a pastor does?
Our church has strong and active lay leaders who look to the pastors we have had for guidance, opinions, and spiritual direction. There are a number of active committees (or teams, depending on the in-jargon of the moment.) Some of these meet regardless of the pastor’s attendance.
We had had lay readers in church for at least 25 years, as well as occasional lay preachers. There are probably close to a dozen people who have been lay preachers, and a few people who will lead a worship service and/or do the liturgy.
Lay people always help serve communion, and a few lay people take communion to the shut-ins. There has been an on-going effort for years to have more lay people do visiting of others, but it hasn’t been sustained. There is also a feeling among some of the older members that the (generic) pastor “should” do all the visiting, visit everybody, even magically decide who needs to be visited without an invitation.
No one ever knows all that the pastor does because the pastor is never at liberty to talk about the various visitations he/she does.
7. What is the worship style of your church? Green book? Blue book? Maroon book? Your own music or books? Liturgical? Formal? Informal? Mixed even in the same service? Different services for different types of styles? Do you have an organ, piano, guitar, other instruments? Does the pastor or worship leader sing the liturgy? Choir? Mostly traditional hymns? Newer praise music? Music from various ethnic backgrounds, even if your people are not of that background? Who decides what hymns will be sung and what liturgical setting will be used?
I tend to think of the style of our church as being informal because it is friendly and touches on real-world goings on of the community, with give and take and appropriate laughter. But we do use the liturgy and it is usually sung. [Aside: sung/chanted liturgy is supposedly “traditional” but I never experienced this (meaning the pastor singing) until I was in my 30’s, even though I’ve always been Lutheran.]
We use both the blue book and the green book. I think that the people tend to sing out more with the songs from the blue book (With One Voice.) We’ve also been using some music from the Renewing Worship materials, as well as some of the great new music that the Catholic Church is using, much of it composed by Lutherans. We've used music from the ELCA's African American hymnal (maroon book, sorry don't remember the name.) The musicians have been very interested in using the hymns that come from other cultures especially from the blue book, as well as some old gospel music. We don’t do them any better than we do old Bach and Schubert music, so I don’t see a problem with this. [Make a joyful noise unto the Lord.] There is a small choir and a bell choir.
There is a worship committee who makes the decisions as to what liturgies we will use for the seasons and also picks the hymns. There is a place for congregants to suggest songs. The worship committee includes the pastor, but this committee also works when there is no pastor.
The music is usually led by both the organ and piano, as is the custom in our area. Hymns that are better played on the piano without the organ are done that way. On occasion, there might be guitar or violin with the piano, and conga drums or rhythm instruments if they fit the song. I've noticed occassionally we've used a hymn that some people consider an old favorite that I've never heard before because it comes from a different tradition.
8. Is your church building a "traditional" style building? More modern style? Older building remodeled into a modern style? Explain. Do you think that the style of the building influences the style of the worship?
The building is set up in the traditional way, but it 30 years old with none of the old style architecture. It is a fairly straightforward, humble building, very serviceable. Several years ago the front interior of the church was remodeled for better function. One great change was that the furniture in the front, altar and altar rail are all moveable so that it is possible to meet changing needs and types of services.
9. Have you had a woman a president of the church or council? Have you had a woman pastor or in another leadership position?
The first woman council president was elected about 20 years ago, and we have had several since. We have had a woman pastor. This seems to be a non-issue for the council and pastor and lay preachers. We have had many strong male leaders on the council as well. On the other hand, the leadership and most teachers for Sunday School and Bible School have all been women. It has been harder to get men to volunteer to be the lector, but that has changed and they now participate about equally.
Tuesday, May 30, 2006
Memorial Day Flower

The Bleeding Heart
I am grateful for all of those who served our country, especially those who put themselves in harms way, to protect us and our liberties. I am grateful to live in a country where I can worship freely and say or write things that might criticize those in positions of authority.
Pray for our men and women serving our country, especially those in harms way. They see things they shouldn't see. Their hearts are bleeding.
Pray for the families of those serving overseas. Pray for those left behind by the death of a loved one killed in the service of our country. Their hearts are bleeding.
Pray especially for those many men and women who return home with injuries. There sacrifice will go on for years. Pray for the men and women who serve our military people with their medical skills. Their hearts are bleeding.
Pray for our leaders, that they will seek peace and the long term good of our people and the people of the whole world. Let them see that hearts are bleeding.
Pray for the leaders of countries that are our allies. Let them see that hearts are bleeding.
Pray for our enemies, as Jesus commanded us. Pray that all leaders will seek the good of all mankind. Let them see that hearts are bleeding. Let hearts not bleed for selfish purposes.
Pray for those who serve others as missionaries and in agencies which want to help get food to starving people, build houses for the homeless, and teach skills for better living. They serve those whose hearts are bleeding.
Pray that citizens have good judgment about which policies of their government are wise and in line with God’s will. Pray that citizens will speak up when their government has policies that harm people or the earth. When hearts bleed, let there be voices speaking God's will.
Pray that none of us gets so callous or self-centered that our hearts don’t bleed when we hear of harm done to others.
Dear Lord: We are thankful for our freedoms. Thank you for those who gave that we might have freedom. Teach us to work for the good of the whole world. And teach us ways to work for freedom in ways that don’t involve war. Please bring forth leaders with new insights and good skills who look to you for strength.Amen.
Monday, May 29, 2006
Knowing Jesus...In our "Hearts" or in our "Head"
Or both?
I believe that God made the whole of us, so that if we are engaging only part of our being in our faith journey, then we are missing the whole of the Gifts that God has given us, although each person's gifts will be a bit different.
The problem with too much emphasis on the feelings (so called-heart knowledge) is that when we have down times, we might think we've strayed from being saved, i.e. we don't "feel" saved. And the bigger problem with that, from a Lutheran point of view, is that we put the emphasis on what we have "done" or "felt" or a "decision we've made" rather than on what Jesus accomplished 2000 years ago.
The problem with too much emphasis on the confessional type of faith, perhaps "head knowledge," is when it doesn't move beyond that. At its worst, it is saying we are saved because we say we're saved just because we say the creed on Sundays. At its best, a Confessional faith carries us through the down times of blah feelings of our faith because we Know (head knowledge based on the Bible) we are saved because of what Jesus did 2000 years ago.
I learned this last point in a very real way during a difficult time in my life. I couldn't pray or truly participate in worship, but I learned that the Holy Spirit truly did dwell in me since the time of my baptism, just as I had been taught in the Lutheran Church. I was "still saved" even though I wasn't able to put anything "into" this faith at that time.
Jesus did the work...so what is our response? That is where others will see what this means to us. Are we grateful? Joyous? Serving others? Maybe these are the things that really make a difference between the head and heart knowledge. This Lutheran message is a big deal. Do we act like it is a big deal? Not that these actions save us.
On the other hand, if we've come to faith because of hearing some preaching of the "feelings" of faith, that is still real faith, because faith comes from God. And the Lutheran confessional way can help people like this who have down times.
Luther encouraged a daily decision to live in our baptismal covenant. These are the thoughts, actions, prayers and feelings that we have based on our response to the Gospel message. One of my favorite verses is 1 Peter 3:15. It implies that there is outward evidence, perhaps joy, of the "hope that you have." It goes on to mention "good behavior in Christ."
I hope this clarifies my "feelings" and "thoughts" on my faith. I think the verse from 1 Peter shows that somehow we tell others by the way that we live it out, not by theology.
Discussion prompted by God’s Upside Down Kingdom at http://frombelow.wordpress.com/
Friday, May 26, 2006
The Diet of Worms


I couldn't help it. When I saw this sign, I thought of good ol' confirmation class, learning about Martin Luther, and the "Diet of Worms." Well, I was in 8th grade then.
My confirmation class was really boring, but I learned a lot. I actually remember most of what I learned because we memorized the whole book. My brain wasn't overfull then. We didn't learn anything "relevant" or learn about putting Christian ways into our daily life. We didn't do any service or any lock-ins. We didn't do any fund raisers. We just sat there every Saturday morning for two years, and we listened to the pastor tell us what to memorize and then we listened to the other students repeat what they had memorized from the week before. There was no rebellion. There wasn't even any discussion. This was back in the last century, and nobody had told us that learning was supposed to be fun.
I am somewhat grateful that I learned all that stuff. But I'm really grateful that before we could be confirmed we had to read books about Martin Luther and write a paper about his life. So I learned about the Diet of Worms....and that is something that is bound to stick in the mind of an 8th grader.
Invaders
The other day my husband joked with me when I made a slightly negative comment about the sea of yellow dandelions in our yard, “If they were considered flowers, you’d think they were pretty.”
Today I was doing yard work that included trying to clip out an invasive perennial plant that has grown in, around, and behind my favorite early summer perennials. I did not plant that invasive plant; it just showed up and started taking over about 12 years ago, spreading more each year. At this point in the season, it is as tall as my favorite plant, which will grow at least another foot in the next month. But my favorite is on the verge of blooming now. I want to see the flowers!
My choices to defeat the invader: fully dig out the whole garden, thereby having everything have to start over as a small plant; weed-whack in-between the “good plants,” likely whacking a couple of the good stalks in the process; treating with a kill-everything spray judiciously, (yeah right); and/or clip out the major stalks of the invader just to keep it shorter than my preferred plant.
But isn’t this plant also one of God’s plants? His Creation?
And isn’t this how we deal with people that we consider “other?” Or evil? Are they not also God’s creation?
Or shall we see the invader as sin and spin a metaphor on how we deal with sin in our midst? Or the threat of sin… How do we keep our kids away from sin and sinful things away from our kids? Do we just keep our plants/our kids in the “green house” away from everything, including God’s rain and wind? Do we whack out the offending things/people/places/entertainment and, in the process, smack the kids or the kids’ spirits as well?
Help, I need a plant prophet.
How does God act in this world?
Why it is hard for non-Christians to take (our) religion seriously.
Thursday, May 18, 2006
Linked with Christians around the Globe.
Linked with Christians around the Globe
Dietrich Bonhoffer said in Life Together:
It is the voice of the Church that is heard in singing together. It is not you that sings, it is the Church that is singing, and you, as a member of the Church, may share in its song. Thus all singing together…serves to widen our spiritual horizon, make us see our little company as a member of the great Christian Church on earth, and help us willingly and gladly to join our singing, be it feeble or good, to the song of the Church.
I like this thought.
Some time ago, a pastor preached a Maundy Thursday sermon about the Last Supper and the Communion we were about to partake in. He emphasized that through the communion, the bread and the wine, we were not only fed by Christ, but we were linked, “in communion,” with the members of Christ’s church all over the world, including those from all the past centuries who were now with God, and those of the time to come. This thought has stayed with me when we celebrate communion.
Bonhoffer’s thought may serve to remind me of why we sing. It is a good reason to try music from other cultures and from other times.
My jumping off point for this thought is from Lutheran Zephry “Christian Worship & the Pastor's Personality” at
Lutheran ZephyrWednesday, May 17, 2006
Good questions
Wednesday, May 10, 2006
Iraqi President Says Killing Must Stop
pathetic and glad
Saturday, May 06, 2006
Survey for Lutherans
I have lived in the same place, attended the same church for quite some time. I don’t often get to attend other churches due to distance or having to travel on a Sunday when visiting relatives, most of whom are Lutheran.
I've been reading lots of Lutheran blogs, which has led me to the conclusion that Lutheran churches may have different styles of worship, perhaps depending on the types of members and especially on the interests and styles of the pastors.
I'd be interested in finding out how other churches work so that I can get a sense of the sameness or uniqueness of various Lutheran churches. Answer whatever you can or write a narrative about your church, either here or at your blog, but put the URL in the comments section.
1. What is the approximate numbers who worship on a Sunday morning? How many services? Are there midweek worship opportunities? Why? Are there any outreach worship services?
2. Do people travel a long way to this church? Are there other Lutheran churches people can choose from without traveling more than 15 miles? Is your church in a tiny town, rural area, small city, big city?
3. What age groups does your church attract? Since younger adults often don’t attend church, if you do have lots of young adults, do you know what brings them to your church? Do you have a youth group? Do you have adults who volunteer to help? Do you pay a youth leader?
4. Does this church have a mixture of ethnic backgrounds? Does this church have mostly people who were always Lutheran or does it have many people who came from other types of denominations? If your church has people of mixed denominational backgrounds, do you know why they come to your church?
5. How many pastors does your church have? Other employees who do ministry, such as a youth director or parish nurse?
6. Would you say that your church has a strong pastoral leadership style or a style of lots of lay leaders, committees, that are active and that the pastor can delegate to? Other styles? Does your church have any lay people who are willing to be the worship leader at a Sunday service? Lay people who preach? Lay people who visit the shut-ins? Lay people who help serve communion? Other opportunities for lay people? If you are in a church where the pastor is in charge of everything, what do you think would happen if a new pastor wanted the people to be part of the ministry? Is your pastor pulled in many directions, in danger of being over committed and worn out? Do you think that most people realize all that a pastor does?
7. What is the worship style of your church? Green book? Blue book? Maroon book? Your own music or books? Liturgical? Formal? Informal? Mixed even in the same service? Different services for different types of styles? Do you have an organ, piano, guitar, other instruments? Does the pastor or worship leader sing the liturgy? Choir? Mostly traditional hymns? Newer praise music? Music from various ethnic backgrounds, even if your people are not of that background? Who decides what hymns will be sung and what liturgical setting will be used?
8. Is your church building a "traditional" style building? More modern style? Older building remodeled into a modern style? Explain. Do you think that the style of the building influences they style of the worship?
9. Have you had a woman as president of the church or council? Have you had a woman pastor or a woman in another leadership position? If so, is there anything notable in the way the woman was view in that role?
Thursday, May 04, 2006
National Day of Prayer
National Day of Prayer
I guess today is the National Day of Prayer. This is something I don’t pay much attention to because I don’t like much about public showiness of religion. I do think it is good that a number of politicians in Washington and elsewhere do get together on a regular basis for sharing their faith and prayer. However, this annual day gets on the television, which I think is the purpose more than praying is the purpose.
I do want to note with sadness something that seems to be common when a public person comments on a heartbreaking event. Many of these speakers, interviewees, and commentators have said, “We send our prayers out to her.” Or “Send your prayers in his direction.”
Huh?
Don’t prayers go (up) to God? I don’t know that God is “up,” but that is the common metaphor. Maybe prayers go out to God or over to God or down to God, but they aren’t meant to go TO the person prayed about.
I haven’t quite figured out if this is a tongue tied expression from someone not used to speaking of faith related issues in public or perhaps it is an attempt by the person to jump on the current band wagon of public faith issues, but that person isn’t literate in churchy talk, and so makes this mistake.
Has anyone else noticed this?
What do you think? Am I too cynical?



